Simon Weaver is an incompetent manager

town supporter wrote:Some interesting comments.  Particularly look forward to the expert analysis provided by Gareth, only surpassed by the brilliance of Craig shooting himself in the foot, criticising the quality of the away travel he has previously spoken so passionately about then editing his comments.  I do like a good chuckle – cheers for that!  Taken a back seat this season and quite enjoyed it (Simon’s reign as manager is clearly far more damaging to my stress levels than I ever realised) – did manage to take in a North Ferriby home game though - You won’t believe this Gareth but they actually played 4-4-2 – wonders will never cease eh?  You see the thing is, for the most part it’s how you operate the system that counts.  The difference here was that North Ferriby played with pace and urgency that is alien to Simon. Sounds simple but wingers played like wingers – quite a sight it was.  One lad particularly impressed, he seemed familiar and his name was Dan Clayton – must look him up.

Oh well, the website informs me that the new stand is progressing well – never mind that there is probably greater enjoyment supporting San Marino right now, we at least have a new stand to think about (or if you’re Simon Lenighan an impending court case too).  Will hopefully make an appearance in a couple of weeks at such a point when we really can’t get much worse.

JordanF wrote:

town supporter wrote:Some interesting comments.  Particularly look forward to the expert analysis provided by Gareth, only surpassed by the brilliance of Craig shooting himself in the foot, criticising the quality of the away travel he has previously spoken so passionately about then editing his comments.  I do like a good chuckle – cheers for that!  Taken a back seat this season and quite enjoyed it (Simon’s reign as manager is clearly far more damaging to my stress levels than I ever realised) – did manage to take in a North Ferriby home game though - You won’t believe this Gareth but they actually played 4-4-2 – wonders will never cease eh?  You see the thing is, for the most part it’s how you operate the system that counts.  The difference here was that North Ferriby played with pace and urgency that is alien to Simon. Sounds simple but wingers played like wingers – quite a sight it was.  One lad particularly impressed, he seemed familiar and his name was Dan Clayton – must look him up.

Oh well, the website informs me that the new stand is progressing well – never mind that there is probably greater enjoyment supporting San Marino right now, we at least have a new stand to think about (or if you’re Simon Lenighan an impending court case too).  Will hopefully make an appearance in a couple of weeks at such a point when we really can’t get much worse.

I take it you don't want a seat reserving on the coach to North Ferriby!?!   

If you change your mind, I will be in the 1919 on Saturday.

Gareth192001 wrote:Wow seems the football dinosaurs are in today where to start....

I'm going to start by saying that I enjoy been a season ticket holder at Town and have been for the past 2 seasons and a casual watcher before that. During that time the club has grown and feels a better place for it, examples the pitch is perfect no slope, grass!!!! new stand and developments for further improvements and some of the playing staff wow.

I'm also going to state that while i think Simon is a bloody nice guy i won't say he isn't without his floors. I've always been a glass half full kinda guy 3-0 down at half time no problem!!!! (25 May 2005). I won't for example flame about a player unless it's a lack of commitment poor attitude of poor discipline.

The way i look at things is probably different to most of you in Simon i see a young manager will a clear passion for the game but someone who is still learning. In fact the whole family clearly enjoy Town I sit behind Chairman Weaver his wife other son and wife speaks volumes for there commitment to the club. In modern football its far to common to see clubs drop from in Stockports cause quite high in the football pyramid, the English league is littered with clubs like that. With Simon and his family at the helm i feel relaxed that won't happen to Town

On the pitch..... ok i think Simon has a lot to learn but who hasn't remember this is his first job. The start to this season hasn't been good enough for various reasons injury's hit hard preseason the shape of the side isn't far off but missing something. 4-4-2 isn't what we played first game of the season. At times i think Simon lack a real attacking knowledge he builds his teams from the back which is natural him been  a center half. Its something i've noticed in a few managers i get the feeling if we introduced a pure attack minded coach we would be better for it. The playing staff we have this year are good enough and the direct style does work in this league cast your mind back to the last few league winners its just got to be done right. I would like to see a attacking coach brought in. To back my early point last season we had Hall, Ash, Hardy up top none of them are out and out goal scores and 2 of them i don't think where good enough, Ash been the exception.

Lack of width this season, I know its early door but i don't see the point in wingers as the modern right and left back develop we've not had a half decent winger since i've been watching and can't remember many teams playing against us with any. We played 4-4-2 all last season and the wingers did nothing other then Dwayne Samuels who was a right back.

I could go on all day but in very brief summary
Keep Simon get a attacking coach boom win win win

I'm going to throw a few questions back at you all
-If you want Simon to go where do you see the club going?
-Where do you think Harrogate Town should be given its a Town with the average age of 102
-Going forward what would you change


Hope i made sense its early


Trevdee if your coach can't get a group of kids to play anything other then 4-4-2 it's not the kids fault it's his who in this day and age watch's any team play 4-4-2

Gareth192001 wrote:Wow seems the football dinosaurs are in today where to start....

I'm going to start by saying that I enjoy been a season ticket holder at Town and have been for the past 2 seasons and a casual watcher before that. During that time the club has grown and feels a better place for it, examples the pitch is perfect no slope, grass!!!! new stand and developments for further improvements and some of the playing staff wow.

I'm also going to state that while i think Simon is a bloody nice guy i won't say he isn't without his floors. I've always been a glass half full kinda guy 3-0 down at half time no problem!!!! (25 May 2005). I won't for example flame about a player unless it's a lack of commitment poor attitude of poor discipline.

The way i look at things is probably different to most of you in Simon i see a young manager will a clear passion for the game but someone who is still learning. In fact the whole family clearly enjoy Town I sit behind Chairman Weaver his wife other son and wife speaks volumes for there commitment to the club. In modern football its far to common to see clubs drop from in Stockports cause quite high in the football pyramid, the English league is littered with clubs like that. With Simon and his family at the helm i feel relaxed that won't happen to Town

On the pitch..... ok i think Simon has a lot to learn but who hasn't remember this is his first job. The start to this season hasn't been good enough for various reasons injury's hit hard preseason the shape of the side isn't far off but missing something. 4-4-2 isn't what we played first game of the season. At times i think Simon lack a real attacking knowledge he builds his teams from the back which is natural him been  a center half. Its something i've noticed in a few managers i get the feeling if we introduced a pure attack minded coach we would be better for it. The playing staff we have this year are good enough and the direct style does work in this league cast your mind back to the last few league winners its just got to be done right. I would like to see a attacking coach brought in. To back my early point last season we had Hall, Ash, Hardy up top none of them are out and out goal scores and 2 of them i don't think where good enough, Ash been the exception.

Lack of width this season, I know its early door but i don't see the point in wingers as the modern right and left back develop we've not had a half decent winger since i've been watching and can't remember many teams playing against us with any. We played 4-4-2 all last season and the wingers did nothing other then Dwayne Samuels who was a right back.

I could go on all day but in very brief summary
Keep Simon get a attacking coach boom win win win

I'm going to throw a few questions back at you all
-If you want Simon to go where do you see the club going?
-Where do you think Harrogate Town should be given its a Town with the average age of 102
-Going forward what would you change


Hope i made sense its early


Trevdee if your coach can't get a group of kids to play anything other then 4-4-2 it's not the kids fault it's his who in this day and age watch's any team play 4-4-2

town supporter wrote:Some interesting comments.  Particularly look forward to the expert analysis provided by Gareth, only surpassed by the brilliance of Craig shooting himself in the foot, criticising the quality of the away travel he has previously spoken so passionately about then editing his comments.  I do like a good chuckle – cheers for that!  Taken a back seat this season and quite enjoyed it (Simon’s reign as manager is clearly far more damaging to my stress levels than I ever realised) – did manage to take in a North Ferriby home game though - You won’t believe this Gareth but they actually played 4-4-2 – wonders will never cease eh?  You see the thing is, for the most part it’s how you operate the system that counts.  The difference here was that North Ferriby played with pace and urgency that is alien to Simon. Sounds simple but wingers played like wingers – quite a sight it was.  One lad particularly impressed, he seemed familiar and his name was Dan Clayton – must look him up.

Oh well, the website informs me that the new stand is progressing well – never mind that there is probably greater enjoyment supporting San Marino right now, we at least have a new stand to think about (or if you’re Simon Lenighan an impending court case too).  Will hopefully make an appearance in a couple of weeks at such a point when we really can’t get much worse.

paulstreet wrote:Went to the match yesterday, and everything that Neil says is correct. I was near the away dug out the last 15 minutes or so and Simon looked genuinely lost, I almost felt sorry for him!  He plainly does not have a clue. Having just read his comments on the official site, its plain that he is in complete denial. It was a poor game yesterday (Peter's report almost made it sound exciting!), We were shocking,what little football that was played was played by them, and only Barnes kept it down to 1-0.  As I have said good teams find ways to win, thats what Ferriby did yesterday.  Dear God, even BPA have got 10 points! Chib scored twice by the way.

They say that one definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. This fits Town's last four years perfectly.  Spend loads of money on talented players to reach the play offs, it all goes pear shaped. Repeat the following year with more talented players, same result. And so on till the end of time (or until even Irving gets tired of pouring his money down the drain).

The interviews in the programme are going to become interesting:

Q. why did you join Harrogate Town?
A. Well, Ive always wanted to be involved in a relegation dog-fight, oh, and the money's good as well.'

Just imagine if we had Mr Weaver Sr. as owner/chairman and Billy Heath or Mark Bower (or just about anyone except Simon!) as manager. Wonderful thought.
New song for you guys behind the goal: Oh Harrogate Town, you bring me down, because your crap.    JUst a suggestion.